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[Note: We recommend reading this email correspondence from bottom up - Arthur & Fiona Cristian - Love For Life Campaign]

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Nice work.

Like all the stuff we are doing, is it not the BREAKING OF THE PRESUMPTION that is the key?

As you put it this way, why would we need anything more?

Issue again is the policy-orificer who will argue, coerce, take you in etc. A matter of doing it to try.

In definition 2, by "holding a licence" we are again not only in an adhesion contract, but as you can see an assumed grantee/tenant of another (defacto authority). Therefore that is why they issue the licence, because the land is replaced with a corporation and the holders of the title of the land have forced the policy officers to enforce the rule that everyone must hold a licence and if not, a fine ensues.

HOLD, v. 1. To possess in virtue of a lawful title; as in the expression, common in grants, "to have and to hold," or in that applied to notes, "the owner and holder."

2. To be the grantee or tenant of another; to take or have an estate from another. Properly, to have an estate on condition of paying rent, or performing service.

3 . To adjudge or decide, spoken of a court, particularly to declare the conclusion of law reached by the court as to the legal effect of the facts disclosed.

4. To maintain or sustain; to be under the necessity or duty of sustaining or proving; as when it is said that a party "holds the affirmative" or negative of an issue in a cause.

5. To bind or obligate; to restrain or constrain ; to keep in custody or under an obligation; as in the phrases "hold to bail," "hold for court," "held and firmly bound," etc.

6. To administer; to conduct or preside at ; to convoke, open, and direct the operations of; as to hold a court, hold pleas, etc.

7. To prosecute; to direct and bring about officially; to conduct according to law; as to hold an election.

8. To possess; to occupy; to be in possession and administration of; as to hold office.

Cheers'
Ant
Globalsov

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From: Rajendra

The word they use is Holder. Does it mean that if you are not a holder (not beholden) then you do not come under the statute. Are we not under the assumption that we must be a holder. After becoming a holder then we try to wriggle out by saying we are not a holder, don't we.

If that is all that HOLDS us to their statute ie holder with permission to travel as per the statute then could we not create paperwork which will not only allow us to journey freely but also allow us to show them their statute and ask them to show where it says that we as non-holders/free men/women are breaking their rules.

Hi Mr Peace Officer I respect you for doing a great job. I will be happy to cooperate with you if you can show me how I have broken the peace. Here is your statute. I have looked through it and for the likes of me cannot see where it says that a freeman journeying on the king's highways and byways commits a crime just by doing so or has to be holder of a licence to do so. Also I cannot find anywhere in the statute regulations governing free men and women ie those who do not hold an RTA's licence. If as a Peace Officer you can show me how I have committed a crime I will willingly come with you to your office. Please have a look at this paperwork and show me what crime has been committed.

Thank you peace officer as it seems there is no reason for me to be here I will be on my way. I bid you good day. Keep up the good work.

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From: Globalsov

Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: Drivers Licence

Play on words, but good pick up. Again, I feel it comes back to who gave them "authority" to decide what our common right to journey is and that we need a licence. Similarly, you can counterclaim that you don't have a "motor vehicle". Technically speaking only taxi and bus "drivers" should be only ones with a licence because they are involved in driving/commerce on the highways. We should not need them in our private need to travel. But again, it's about revenue and control.

A ridiculous consequence of the new P-plate laws and petrol prices: a friend of my daughters goes to poker comps. Because they are all 18-19, they have this rule of not being about to have more that 1 other in the car after 11PM. Well instead of 1car, they all have to travel in 3 separate cars! Also with the alcopops thing they are also wanting to bring in 21 as legal age, so people in the 18- <21 group will be displaced if this comes through.

If you can create a neg-aver out of it may be OK, but again, it's about staying out of their rules and getting em to prove their claim.

AUTHORITY. In contracts. The lawful delegation of power by one person to another. In the English law relating to public administration, an authority is a body having jurisdiction in certain matters of a public nature.

In governmental law. Legal power; a right to command or to act; the right and power of public officers to require obedience to their orders lawfully issued in the scope of their public duties.

AUTHOR. One who produces, by his own intellectual labor applied to the materials of his composition, an arrangement or compilation new in itself.

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On 5/31/08, Rajendra wrote:

On this site http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/num_reg/rtlr20002000n14476/s9.htm...

It says (for my comment see the last two sentences at bottom of this reply inside [ ] ): Vehicles authorised to be driven by licence classes (NSW cl 26 (1)-(12))

(1) A driver licence of a particular driver licence class authorises the holder to drive a motor vehicle—

(a) of a kind covered by that driver licence class; or

(b) of a kind covered by any lower class in the driver licence class hierarchy in subregulation 8 (1) .

(2) The kinds of motor vehicles covered by each driver licence class are set out in the table of licence class authorisations.

(3) However, this regulation does not authorise the holder of a driver licence—

(a) to drive a motor vehicle otherwise than in accordance with any conditions, restrictions or qualifications to which the driver licence is subject; or

(b) to drive a motor vehicle in contravention of the Road Transport (Dimensions and Mass) Act 1990 http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/consol_act/rtama1990362/ ; or

(c) to drive a public vehicle for hire or reward unless the licence is also a public vehicle licence authorising the person to drive a public vehicle of that kind.

[Note the importance of the word holder - For those not holding driver licence does it say anywhere that you cannot drive a vehicle or travel in an automobile etc etc. Please comment.]