"The Establishment Of Zion" Conceived A Sandpit And Filled It With Plastic Toys For The Serfs To Play In - FORUM

This Forum Sprouted From Another Forum In The Love For Life Website "Knowingly Or Unknowingly David Icke Is A Zionist And So Are Alex Jones And Jeff Rense" - By Arthur Cristian - Sat 30th June 2007

Best To Read This Forum From The Bottom Up.

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11th July 2007

Arthur Cristian Wrote:

Hello Mike
The purpose of this document is to reveal to you just how brainwashed you are without writing you off as a fool or making you bad for it. Regardless of our differences, I still respect you and I am glad to hear you are still with us after your operation and that you are getting better.

Mike Said…..Love:
1. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness. 2. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance. - There is no duty to have feelings of love. That’s just plain nonsense. Some people have a high sense of empathy and some not so high. And empathy does not always restrict itself to or for humans... some people feel empathy for animals and even the fauna. Misplaced empathy such as is found in religious zealots can be a mental disorder. Like the line in One Tin Soldier... do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it in the end.

The rule of law is a set of “rules of conduct or procedure established by custom, agreement, or authority. The law is “principles governing the affairs of a community and enforced by a political authority; a legal system: international law.” “The condition of social order and justice created by adherence to such a system”. - In your pie in the sky utopia, you leave out those who would see and do it otherwise. What is to control such behaviour that would have what is mine or my life? There is no truly benign belief system. Belief systems go hand in hand with a superiority complex... even yours. That is why we absolutely must have written law that expresses what is not acceptable behaviour. Mike

Mike,
What you have just stated is confirming your support for the destruction of everything that is real in the real world and that you are leading a ship of fools into disaster. In fact, you are clinging to the mast of this sinking ship. You are worshipping the darkness and you can’t even see it. Your beliefs reveal you to be a lost soul in a world full of lost souls worshipping the separation from the real light of real life. More than this, you are committed to the continued enslavement of mankind and seek to have men, women and children bound to hell. This reply/article proves it beyond argument. It is incontrovertible. Arthur Cristian

As pointed out previously, in the real world everything is constantly moving and radiating real life-force energy. If we can see beyond the atoms, molecules, neutrons, protons and electrons etc, everything is sound, colour, light and other sense vibrations interacting and radiating electro-magnetic real life-force energy. Our real feelings are those sense vibrations and our words allow us to identify and communicate them and help to convey the consequences of how we respond to them.

While real feelings permeate the infinite spiritualised universe as real life-force energy, inanimate words only exist within intellects. But Intellects are nowhere to be found. Has anyone seen an intellect? Where is the intellect? With all the billions of dollars behind medical/scientific research being thrown at the exploration of the brain and other parts of the body, no one has yet found the intellect. However, scientists have already discovered the electro-magnetic sound, colour, light and other sense vibrations within us and without us and that is because they are real and are there to be found.

Whatever is real can be found and what is not real can’t be found and what is not real is empty and useless for the real needs of real flesh and blood men, women and children. Having faith in or having opinions about or believing in anything that is not real is a complete waste of our time and effort and this is the point of this article; there is no benefit to be gained for any of us from believing in, having faith in and having opinions about anything. Yet billions of men, women and children spend their lifetimes worshiping man-made constructs that are, in truth, not real and that are, in fact, causing the complete destruction of everything that is real on earth including the planet.

Where words can convey real feelings, real feelings do not convey words. This shows very clearly that real feelings are much higher, more expansive and refined in vibration than words, which are dense and Earth bound. Words contain no real feelings radiating real life-force/energy. Therefore words are of the darkness while real feelings are of the light. Where the light nourishes our soul and our body, words have absolutely nothing to feed us with and will leave us with an empty stomach and an empty soul (darkness).

The world we live in (the “civilized” world) is one of constructs, of which “The Law” is one. These divide and rule constructs (The Rule of Law, Police, Defence, English Language, English History, English Education, University, Private Corporations, Government, Nation, Civilisation, Globalisation, Industrialisation, Institutionalisation, Politicalisation, Socialisation, Compartmentalisation, Classification, Class, Society, Race, Culture, Creed, Credit Creation/Debt Finance Banking, Investments, Insurance, Media, Publishing, Advertising, Real Estate, Stock Market, Fashion, Sport, Gambling, Alcohol, Pharmaceuticals, Chemicals, Petroleum, Wal-Mart, Woolworths, Bunnings etc, etc) are not something we have been consulted about – we are brainwashed from birth into believing that using these divide and rule constructs (Court Rulings, Laws, Acts, Statutes, Policies, Regulations, Contracts, Mortgage, Lots, Plots, Borders, Boundaries, Fees, Registrations, Certificates, Values, Charges, Rates, Taxes, Tolls, Meters, Fines, Measurements, Usury Interest etc, etc), is the only way we can co-exist with one another. These divide and rule constructs are not real – they contain no real life-force energy - they are just words that we have been deceived by to cause us to give our real lives (power) away, making us empty in the process. The real significance of divide and rule will become apparent as you continue reading this article.

Constructs cannot give us real life-force energy. I call this present world of constructs, which men, women and children currently believe in, have faith, in or have opinions about “Fantasyland”. In fantasy, nothing is radiating real life-force energy; everything is vacuumed. When we are in duty to one another we radiate real life-force energy like the sun but when we are self-centred, which occurs when we believe in, have faith in or have opinions about inanimate constructs, all our real life-force energy is turned inwards to ourselves, becoming a grey to black vortex (the vacuum).

We can either, radiate and be the real life-force energy of the light that connects us (glue) with the infinite spiritualised universe/community, or we can cause ourselves to descend into darkness by denying others our light. This is the ancient battle of the dark against the light, of the lie arrogantly ignoring the truth, of slavery instead of freedom, of greed and selfishness resisting love, of ignorance and fear instead of trust, of war rather than peace, of words and word-story e-motions denying real feelings.

There is a clearly defined distinction between the light and the dark. When you are in the light and all is light there is no darkness. When you are in the darkness and all is dark, there is no light. Life experience has us be in the light or in the fantasized darkness or in the dimmed down grey scales leading to darkness, caused by the imagined dimmer switch of our mind. Albert Einstein stated: “Cold is the total and complete absence of heat just as darkness is the total absence of light. Both the cold and the darkness do not exist.” Albert Einstein also said, “God did not create Evil. Evil is the absence of God in the people’s hearts; it is the absence of love. Love is like heat and light, it exists and its absence leads to Evil”.

Everything in the light is truth; the darkness comes when certain lifeforms intentionally craft the constructs that allow inanimate shadows to enter people’s lives, causing hiding places that shut out the light of eternal truth (real life-force energy). Eternal life is without illumined shadows because illumined shadows are only the evidence of the existence of the inanimate constructed lies that provide their architects with the hiding places to avoid the eternal light of truth exposing their lies.

If the sun could cast a shadow, everything dependent on its sunlight (real life-force energy) and within the path of the shadow would perish. This is why the sun is all light at all times and why the truth is all light as well. Our mind has a dimmer switch that can be turned up to receive the great brilliance of real life force energy, as it is when we are babies, or turned down through a series of grey scales to absolute darkness, as happens when we choose to turn our focus away from that energy. Just as one person can walk into a room and demand that the light be dimmed down or turned off, while the other person in that room can demand that the light be set bright, there is a struggle within each of us as the shadows of illumined darkness (the constructs) tries to convince us to turn the dimmer switch down from great brilliance by allowing the illumined shadows to dim down the light. It’s just like a venetian blind that we are innocently or foolishly adjusting to filter the amount of light (real life-force energy) we are allowing into our real lives.

Unless our parents are able to protect us from the influences of intellectualised constructs that are the shadows of illumined darkness that block out the real life-force energy of the light from reaching our souls, our dimmer switches are turned down. If our extended families and communities don’t protect us, the dimmers are kept down or turned down more. If our schools, healthcare, food sources, the media and entertainment don’t protect us from those influences, our dimmer switches are kept down or turned down even more. In this day and age it is practically impossible to reach adulthood without our dimmer switches already turned down. When you consider that all the intellectualised constructs we live under that influence our dimmer switches and allow shadows into our lives, are controlled by leaders whose dimmer switches were already turned down to grey before they reached leadership, what chance do innocent children have to grow up with their dimmers switched to great brilliance? Compounding this problem further is the fact that most of our parents, extended families, community members and service providers have also set their light dimmers down before we were exposed to them.

In Australia, we all know that a commercial radio can be tuned into two different bandwidths, AM or FM. In the same way, we can choose what we tune into with our minds; we can choose to focus on the bandwidth of chaos (the intellectualised constructs that are the shadows of illumined darkness) or we can tune into the bandwidth of our real feelings (real life-force energy) and the inspirations of a real life (the real light of truth). Within the bandwidth of chaos, where inanimate distortions of real life are available (the intellectualised constructs that are the shadows of illumined darkness – the lies), there are hundreds of frequencies (constructs of Fantasyland/Hell) to choose from, depending on our interests and lifestyle. It is our free will that turns the dial on the individual radios in our minds as we select between bandwidths and stations. Just as a radio can emit talkback, rock music, easy listening or opera, so the life we experience from moment to moment comes as a result of the bandwidth and frequency we choose to tune into.

The radio itself obviously does not have the rock band or opera singer inside it; it is just acting as a conduit for that sound being transmitted from the radio station. The radio becomes a mirror of the base station by drawing in the frequency of the base station and in the same way we reflect the values of either the constructs (the illumined shadows) we choose to have faith in, have opinions about or believe in or we reflect the real feelings of the light of truth that we feel. Either way, we become and are glued to what we have chosen to respond to in life regardless if a hidden hand has influenced our thinking to turn the knob.

This then is the very clear distinction between the light and the dark. The thing is this, when we physically die our soul is still glued to the darkness (hell) or to the light (heaven) and the only way we can unglue our souls from hell is through filling up our buckets with acts of love as real flesh and blood men, women and children. Many lost souls who have spent lifetimes glued to hell, finally return to the most powerful light of truth to assess their soul lives and choose to dissolve their soul life out of shame when they sense just how far their soul has descended into darkness through the will of their evil deeds. In an act of love of their own doing when they are without human personality, ego or character traits, these lost souls sense their soul’s unworthiness within the divine plan and commit spiritual suicide (merging with the sound, colour and light vibrations). They cannot feel themselves returning to earth to sort out their state of being that lead to the trail of destruction they have left and, just as a heroin addict knows they are a heroin addict and continues being a heroin addict until they finally take their lives, they prefer to give up rather than continue on.

The radio is a tool and so is our body. Just as the radio is empty and is unable to create any real sound by itself, so we are unable to create a real life for ourselves without the stimulation of real life already being available to respond to, in the first instance. Real life requires real life to have real life and thus the interconnection of real life, from one form of expression of real life-force energy to another, unfolds and adapts eternally. The light of truth that we feel clearly tells us that real life-force energy existed before real life began. Everything about our real life occurs because we are partaking of real life-force energy that existed before our real lives commenced on Earth. If we stop absorbing real life-force energy, our real life begins to fade away and this is why we need to drink and eat and breathe and feel real life-force energy at all times to maintain our real lives.

The same applies with our real soul. The real feelings that we feel are our real soul communing with our real life here and now. Our soul is our real feelings. Our real soul requires the real heat and warmth of the real light of truth (life-force energy) that we feel, to be able to absorb, respond, exist and evolve in the real heart-felt spiritual realms of real life that we feel.

When our minds are allowing the illumined shadows to filter out the real light of truth from reaching through to our soul, our soul also begins to fade away into oblivion just like a dimmer switch that gradually turns down the light (life-force energy) until the light is no more. If we can imagine a piece of plasticine moulded to form the being we are, the vessel that contains our life force energy, we can see how that vessel can fade into the universal sense vibrations, losing its uniqueness just as the moulded plasticine can be rolled back into a ball. When we put our energy into fantasies instead of into real life energy, we cease to draw in the real life energy that we need to keep us attuned to the vibration of real life and cease to give real life energy back that maintains our link. When we start giving our real life energy to the fantasies that cannot give our souls the nourishment they need to maintain their link with real life, we break our link with real life energy and forge links with the darkness where nothing is real. We have broken our links with real community and lost our ability to feel other people to the extent that we can cut off from their suffering and allow the world to be destroyed. When we have broken the real feeling bonds that tell us to do no harm to one another, we begin to terrorise others and become the cause of their suffering.

Those who form very strong bonds with the darkness, disassociate themselves to the extent that they are able to lie, keep secrets, collude, rape, murder and destroy to achieve their aims. By ignoring our real feelings, we are strangling our soul until it suffocates, pushing it away, no different to abandoning our baby in the middle of nowhere, estranged from the love of family, partnerships and community.

Those lost souls who have descended beyond the grey scales into pure absolute darkness have supreme intellects but their souls have become black due to the shadows of illumined darkness blocking out all the light of truth. The directions that guide their earthly lives are driven completely by the sublime arrogance of their belief in the constructs they have acquiesced to. Instead of being beacons of real light, they are the determined disciples of illumined shadows who become our leaders and the hidden hands in all fields of endeavour. Through gradualism, the master purveyors of illumined shadows have taken around 330 years to achieve their goal of completely blanketing the earth and mankind with their illumined shadows. Many Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Banksters, Politicians, Public Servants, Bureaucrats, Moguls, Media Representatives, Directors, Executives Teachers, Professors, Academics, Priests, Gurus, Artists, Experts, Revolutionaries, Scientists, Psychics, Channellers, Motivators, Historians, Architects, Archaeologists, Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Doctors, Benefactors etc, are the purveyors of illumined shadows.

Whereas the light gives us our real feelings, it is the darkness that gives us our emotions, (our arrogance, ignorance, fear, greed, selfishness, secrets, lies, deception, collusion, corruption, anger, hatred, jealousy, revenge, depression, loneliness, isolation, separation, despair, emptiness, fantasy, delusion, distrust, uncertainty, confusion, artificiality, superficiality, conceitedness, theft, rape, debt, power and control trips etc). These grey to black coloured emotions break our links with real life energy and encourage us to cause and allow destruction. Emotions are the illumined shadows that we have accepted into our lives to block out our real feelings. When we are connected to our real feelings, we do no harm to one another and we care for one another. It is only when we are tuning into our emotions (shadows) that we need laws (shadows) to govern (shadows) and police us (shadows). What you are suggesting Mike, is that we use tools of the darkness to manage our emotions of darkness and forge further links with the darkness. Our real feelings are our law; we police ourselves without having to give our power away to others to govern us like you are suggesting, ending up in the same vicious circle of darkness we are experiencing and perpetuating today.

The fantasies we learn to believe in, have faith in and have opinions about are the shadows that DIVIDE (unglue) us from our bonds with the real light of truth (community, family, partnerships). The RULE’s, regulations, rituals and procedures of the constructs we are trained to follow, glue us to the bonds of darkness and we stay glued to the darkness by maintaining the ORDER OUT OF THE CHAOS (being separated from the bonds with the real light of truth) by our constant worship of these false idols of real life (Fees, Registrations, Charges, Rates, Taxes, Tolls, Meters, Fines, Interest, Prayers, Tithes, Degrees, Initiations, etc).

With free will, we either increase the vibration of our soul to attune with the real feelings of the divine plan or we are lowering our soul vibration by attuning to the intellectualised levels of organised darkness. The darkness is organised by very clever illumined minds. The illumined disciples craft the constructs that cast the shadows across the path of the radiant light of truth. There are no accidents in the conception of fantasies and their everyday operations. There are fewer coincidences than some people like to think Constructs are planned from the very beginning before they are enacted. An evil act requires a perpetrator and the perpetrator is a rebel, rebelling against the divine plan of real community life. Without a perpetrator there can be no evil act. Rebellions require planning and leaders.

Provided with clean drinking water, healthy food, clothing, warmth, shelter, community support, truth and freedom, few souls on earth would ever seek to do harm to themselves or others. Once we remove this terrible intellectualised psychic disease of the mind, “The Illumined Shadows”, out of the way, all the emotional symptoms of this highly contagious disease will very quickly fade away into oblivion and peace will finally be with us.

When we live in the real world of real community life, the unique members of community come together to provide the balance, order and harmony of the community. As stated in the Love For Life Campaign Website, “I Am In Duty To You And You Are in Duty To Me” and together we have real community. This is the way of the truth. Community gardens that all community members work in to feed the needs of community. No more fences, lots and plots. With each member of community willing to be in duty to community, this love for life becomes the money, becomes the insurance, becomes the savings, the superannuation and the investments, becomes the hospital, the education and all other essential community services. With no more debts and bills to pay and with the advent of free-energy technology arriving at our doorstep shortly, all unique members of community will experience a freedom (everything free and available for everyone) that generations of serfs have been dreaming of for aeons. Problems are seen as community problems to be fixed by the community.

The natural world around us exists through the individual elements of nature playing their part in duty to the continuation of life (community) through their transference of real life-force energy, better known as love, from one to another for the benefit of life. If the Sun or any element of nature were seduced by fantasies, like reading a book of fiction, the universe would perish because no real life-force energy is being generated and directed at others who need it! Call it a soul contract if you like. I prefer to call it a duty, but regardless of the words used to describe this real feeling commitment, breaking a commitment to a family or partnership already glued to your soul, without everyone’s heart-felt mutual agreement in place to break it, leads to the soul dramatically decreasing its soul vibration.

The consequences of men and women neglecting their real duty to their real communities, families and partnerships are immense and result in the destruction of freedom for all. The illumined constructs (Fantasies) are our greatest nightmare. Fantasies are stopping men and women from being in duty to real community life and must be urgently eradicated if we are to save the earth, reclaim our right to real freedom and experience a real peace amongst mankind.

Real Freedom of the individual exists only if there is a real community to protect it. Real freedom is brought about by a team effort of individuals all working together to help protect the real team from the attacks of Fantasy (constructs). Without the support of the team, individuals become separated from real community life by Fantasies and become easy pickings for those who wish to continue preying upon them. Only through real community life can we restore real freedom for all individuals infected by Fantasies. This love for life that we feel is our natural heart-felt duty to making sure that the distribution and transference of real life-force energy is shared equally amongst all of community, family and partners.

The intellectualised constructs that are the shadows conceived by the architects of illumined darkness contain no real life-force energy and thus are unable to generate and distribute real life-force energy to any soul. This logically proves that “The Law” and every abomination “The Law” has permitted to exist as a construct, are not only without real life-force energy, but are intended to deprive all other souls of receiving real life-force energy and are determined to force souls to decrease the vibration of their soul. “The Law” is the most dangerous, lethal weapon ever conceived on Earth. As a tool of evil, “The Law” is far more dangerous than all the nuclear bombs currently existing on Earth and being detonated at the same time. We have to urgently get rid of “The Law” before it is too late.

“The Law” and every abomination (construct) that “The Law” has permitted to exist in the human experience are working together with “The Law” as terrorist organisations, terrorising the people (souls) with their constructed illumined shadows for the sole purpose of manipulating the minds of souls to join their ranks in hell. This is the end game. This is what all the man made conflicts are about on earth.

The Love For Life Campaign Website Flier Page www.loveforlife.com.au/flier continues the information in this article. This article has also been included in a forum http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/889, which provides all previous correspondence with the Yahoo mailing group Superconsciousness, on this subject. There are further articles (edited and unedited) to be found in our website http://www.loveforlife.com.au/arthur_cristian and http://www.loveforlife.com.au/campaign

Our commitment to establishing a true community with others has come about as a result of what we have experienced at the hands of a crime syndicate (Judges, Registrars, Barristers, Lawyers, Banksters and a wall of silence from main-stream media including websites). See website for details http://www.loveforlife.com.au/court_case.

With Macquarie Bank/Perpetual Limited bank fraud condoned by many Supreme Court judges stealing the family home and destroying income, we are now receiving minimal social security payments and some support from friends to continue our court actions, the Love For Life Campaign for establishing a real community, 1.5 hours drive-time outside of Sydney, and taking care of our 4 young daughters (one a baby). If anyone feels a calling to be part of this campaign (land, goods, services, labour, money, music, arts, literature, editing, marketing etc) or would like to make a contribution to the Love for Life campaign to keep us going and fulfill the vision, please contact us by:
Email: action @ loveforlife.com.au
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6th July 2007

Mike Wrote:

Love:
1. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.

2. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of sex and romance. -

There is no duty to have feelings of love. That’s just plain nonsense. Some people have a high sense of empathy and some not so high. And empathy does not always restrict itself to or for humans... some people feel empathy for animals and even the fauna. Misplaced empathy such as is found in religious zealots can be a mental disorder. Like the line in One Tin Soldier... do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it in the end.

The rule of law is a set of “rules of conduct or procedure established by custom, agreement, or authority. The law is “principles governing the affairs of a community and enforced by a political authority; a legal system: international law.” “The condition of social order and justice created by adherence to such a system”.

In your pie in the sky utopia, you leave out those who would see and do it otherwise. What is to control such behaviour that would have what is mine or my life? There is no truly benign belief system. Belief systems go hand in hand with a superiority complex... even yours. That is why we absolutely must have written law that expresses what is not acceptable behaviour.

Mike

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Arthur Cristian Wrote:

Mike, What I said was:
We are talking about love here (love being our real feelings - not emotions - our real feelings have us care for others without DOING HARM to them in any way whatsoever - our real feelings have us empathise with others, have us feel and direct these loving feelings of compassion, kindness, sense of morality/conscience upon others, so the beneficiaries benefit 100% from our duty of love to them [our will-our actions] meaning we are honouring the uniqueness in every aspect of life, in every step of the way, at all times so that no one is being forced to conform). There is no limit to how we express our love for each other, our love for all of life. Love is Love. I never used the word ONE or ONE WAY OR ONE VIEW as you are suggesting. I used the words [Only through a love for all of life, a community of love (I am in duty to you and you are in duty to me) are we able to finally free ourselves from the psychological entrapment of Zion's sandpit, which we call Fantasyland (Hell).]

"The Law" was forced (Terrorised) upon my childhood, attacking my innocence. I was never given the choice if I wanted to buy it or not! Nobody bothered to wait until I was old enough to decide for myself, for my uniqueness, if "The Law" is for me or whether I sought other alternatives or options like love? "The Law" was being shoved down my throat by everyone around me because they had all acquiesced to the dictatorship of "socialised norms" which included Santa Clause, Easter Bunny & the Tooth Fairy. These "socialised norms" were being shoved down my throat, to deceive me through manipulation, often by fear based constructs, into having me conform to the social conditions of my forced-fed environment.

I never created any of these constructs and yet I am being told just like you have so very well implied "In all things social, the rule of law, as commonly agreed upon by the constituants of that law, is the glue of civilized behavior." In the context of these words of yours, isn't it a farce when you consider the Western World English language, History and Education were all forced-fed upon me/us because "The Law" says so, without consideration for our uniqueness? Isn't "The Law" terrorising our existence into conforming (THE GLUE) to these forced-fed constructs, to have us believe in these social norms, have faith in these social norms and have opinions about these constructs? Who is benefiting from "The Law" enforcing (GLUING) these constructs upon all of us? Does not "The Law" determine (GLUE) the haves and the have nots? Does not "The Law" determine (GLUE) all divide and rules? Does not "The Law" enforce (GLUE) the class systems and that is why we have rich and poor?

Isn't it true that NOTHING can exist in the human experience, including all socialised norms, unless "The Law" says so (THE GLUE)? i.e., "The Law", Monarchies (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), Government (govern men t - Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control with the 2 party system), Religions (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), Private Corporations (including every act/action of a private corporation - Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), credit-creation/debt-finance/usury (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), insurance (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), publishing (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), media (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), the class system (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control), English language, history and education (Mono-theism - centralisation of power and control in worship to "The Law' of civilised behaviour) etc etc etc etc.

Mike, Just Who Is Benefiting From "The Law"? The people who are getting poorer and poorer or The Establishment?

In truth, just where does this problem reside, With me having to conform to "The Glue Of Civilised Behaviour" or "The Glue Of Civilised Behaviour" being forced upon me to conform to it?

Fiona and I are saying that the real love feelings have us be "I am in duty to you and you are in duty to me" and this is the glue that bonds/forms real community life and in this way we are honouring the DO NO HARM that our real feelings tell us/guide us to do, upon ourselves and upon others. This is consciousness at play, in our everyday lives, with everything we do. However, "The Law" with all its civilised behaviours Will Do Harm to others and it does All The Time 24/7.

As we stated in our website flier page www.loveforlife.com.au/flier
"Anything less than the primary message of the Flier Page "I am in duty to you and you are in duty to me" with our everyday actions and values, reveals the stifling presence of self-centering mind control, leading to greed and selfishness (self-i-shness), causing the denial of true freedom, peace and prosperity for everyone.

When we fail to be in duty to each other, community begins to fragment. Being in duty to each other is the glue that bonds/forms real community life. Without the bonds, we become what we are now, a world of individualised, Self-Centred Rambos, running amok in Chaos, living with a dog eats dog, survival of the fittest mentality. Today, the warning signs ring VERY LOUD, telling us the bonds of real community life are breaking. Why? Because men and women have become Self-Centred. What happens to the planets if the sun stops being in duty to the planets. What happens to the baby if a mother stops being in duty to her baby? What happens to nature if nature stops being in duty to nature? What happens to all men and women if all men and women stop being in duty to all men and women?

In the real world everything is constantly moving and radiating energy. In fantasy, nothing is radiating; everything is vacuumed. When we are in duty to one another we also radiate energy like the sun but when we are self-centred all our energy is turned inwards to our selves, becoming a grey to black vortex. We can either radiate and be the light or we can cause darkness by denying others our light. This is the ancient battle of the dark against the light, of the lie arrogantly ignoring the truth, of slavery instead of freedom, of greed and selfishness resisting love, of war rather than peace."

Is this "Religion" as Dylan88 has stated or is it "Your appreciation of irony is either exquisitely sublime or wholly absent" as Marc has stated or is it what you have stated Mike "The claim to have the one and only way or view is the automatic condemnation of all other ways or views - The only difference between a rut and a grave is its depth." Or is this just Love trying to reach out to the brainwashed lost in the belief of civilised behaviour?

Arthur Cristian

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Mike Wrote:

What I said was:
The claim to have the one and ony way or view is the automatic condemnation of all other ways or views. The only difference between a rut and a grave is its depth.

In all things social, the rule of law, as commonly agreed upon by the constituants of that law, is the
glue of civilized behavior. Beware of catch terms, phrases and generalizations that class people and hold them in contempt... propaganda is the tool of the fanatic anzealot and they do not have your goodwill at heart.

"In all things social, the rule of law as commonly agreed upon by the constituants of that law is the
glue of civilized behavior."

Pulling a portion of what was said to meet your ends is sneaky, underhanded and out of the diry tricks of propaganda handbook.

It quite apparent that this some sort of salespitch of a belief system and is no different than any other
evangelist... Truth comes in many forms, but when brought up, it usually means as it is to you, not
necessarily based on any real fact or evidence that can be corroborated independantly.

Mike

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Dylan88 Wrote:

mc wrote"
The only difference between a rut and a grave is its depth"

Love it.
GREAT to have you back with us Mike!

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Cheryl Wrote:

Hi there (mike),
It appears your hospital stay went well and it's good to see your post!

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Arthur Cristian Wrote:

Dylan
You call it ranting or religion, we call it loving life. We have willingly rolled up our sleeves and put ourselves on the front line, working away, committed to waking up the sheeple. Is this religion? The sun shines constantly, without relent. Is the sun into religion? Where do you draw the line between accepting and trusting others for their uniqueness in expressing who they really are and sharing their truths, and when you are judging others for how you see them and how you pigeonhole them?

We see real flesh and blood men and women hiding behind corporate fictions, using the titles of their corporate fictions as a shield and a sanctuary while blatantly stepping over the mark to attack and do harm to other real flesh and blood men, women, children, as well as nature. These intellectualised deceivers of corporate fiction are terrorising the minds of the masses with their lies, deception, secrecy, collusion and corruption. Their sole purpose is power and control over the people and they will rape and pillage the wealth and assets of every man, woman and child on earth to achieve and or maintain their global despotism.

This is not acceptable to us. Without a strong immune system working as a barrier, disease will spread through our bodies, take an organ here, a gland there, until there is nothing left to take and then we die. We are working away at restoring community immunity, to encourage members of community to stand up and support each other for our real freedom, prosperity, justice, liberty and a permanent peace. To firstly have community immunity be the barrier that stops this highly infectious, intellectualised, psychotic disease of the mind from stepping over the mark to spread its sickness any further and secondly to go on the attack through love and wipe it out.

This is a most terrible psychic disease of the mind that attacks our innocent children, shuts down their natural ability to empathise, have compassion, honour uniqueness, have a strong sense of morality, and as unfortunate brainwashed adults, turns them into greedy and selfish self-centred men and women, living in fantasy, hiding behind the protection of corporate fictions while performing their dirty deeds. This sickness also turns its self-centred victims into antagonists who ridicule and or try to destroy the characters of those who are not infected. This disease seeks to imprint its own self-centred image upon all its victims. If nothing is done to stop this self-centred madness from spreading any further, this disease will consume humanity and turn us all into its zombie slaves. Is this religion? Do you have your head in the sand? Are you not able to see what is going on? How can we have freedom when our communities are in a state of chaos? What about the future of our children and the next ten generations. Do you not want to leave a better world behind you than the one we currently have?

Arthur Cristian

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Dylan88 Wrote:
As I said you sure do a lot of ranting for such loving people. Call it what you will, you are just selling your particular form of religion sell.
Good-bye.

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Marc Wrote:

Arthur said:
[We are just being normal, healthy real flesh and blood men and women, living in the real world. We are refusing to be seduced and bound to the dictates of fantasies.]

Your appreciation of irony is either exquisitely sublime or wholly absent.

[We are just not going to sit around and wait for others to fix these most serious psychological problems.]

Now this is encouraging - self-awareness is an important first step on the road to recovery.

Marc

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Marc Wrote:

[Rene wrote: I guess my best answer to yours and Mike's inferences is: You are what you think or are educated to think and believe.]

.... or what you have mistakenly reasoned to think and believe
.... or you have deluded yourself into thinking and believing
.... or have been duped into thinking and believing
.... or derive psychological gratification from thinking and believing etc etc etc

However, the validity of any belief is independent of how the belief came to be held and the degree of certainty with which anyone holds it to be true. The sole criterion for evaluating the validity of a belief is the evidence supporting it, both in quality and quantity as well as the robustness with which the evidence can survive independent, objective, comprehensive and rational scrutiny.

If the belief can't pass the evidence test, then all you're left with is personal opinion, and that would be just one of a very large number of personal opinions about any topic you care to mention. On the plus side, though, it's often much safer and more satisfying just sticking with personal opinion since evidence based belief can't be guaranteed to yield that highly cherished 'makes me feel real good /
special / superior' outcome, and where's the reward in that. And this is what makes cyberspace such an entertainingly fruitcake-rich environment.

Marc

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Arthur Cristian wrote:
You are on the ball Renee. Divide and Rule Is Zion's tool and they do it with words they conceived like race, culture, nation, civilisation, culturalisation, organisation, politicalisation, religion, ideologies etc etc. Every belief in or faith in or an opinion in or of their words (Zion's Words) are the glue that foments Chaos. The believers of the words begin to clash against the believers of other words, revealing the tools of Zion's divide and rule at play, breaking us apart, individualising us, pulling us out from the heart-felt bonds of real community life. Divide and Conquer through Chaos, meaning We Maintain The Order Out Of The Chaos They Have Created For Us (the chaos) by believing in, having faith in or having opinions about Their Words (their constructs).

Of course the House of Saud is another abomination of Zion and so are the words Crypto Jew. Did you know the Word Nazi did not exist before or during WW2? The Germans were called Jerry's. The Zionist word-story propaganda of Nazi, arrived into this world after the conclusion of WW2. Try and find any authentic Mainstream Newspaper article that uses the word Nazi before or during WW2? I might be wrong about this but I can't find one and nor have hundreds of other researches.

As Zion clearly told us "In The Beginning Was The Word And The Word Was With God" - The Word being "Their Words" and God being "Their Law" - "The Law" forced upon us to live by and to which we must all conform to. Did any of us create these constructs? NO. We were all forced to take them on (believe in, have faith in, have opinions about their words). They are not our words. It is their words. They created them and they forced them down our throats. "The Law" of Zion says So.

The Radical Muslims are just brainwashed in word-story, no different to those who believe in capitalism or free enterprise or Christianity or democracy etc etc. The real issue at play here is not the Saudis, or the Arabs, or the Sephardic Jews or Crypto Jews or the Rothschild's etc etc, the real issue at play here is the clash between the believers of words. We are talking about you and me and everyone else who have been brainwashed by believing in Zion's words.

Here lies the real power of Zion being waged on all of us. All the actors unfolding in future conflicts are all the believers in words, devoted to uphold their devotion to words, at all cost. Welcome to Fantasyland or better still Hell. Its time to wake up now. We are all in Zion's hell while the chaos of Zion's words are believed in. The fires of hell are raging all around and no one can escape the terror unless we all walk away from the belief in Zion's words. We are born without words only to be terrorised by words throughout life. While we believe in the words of Zion, we allow The Puppeteers Of Zion to pull the strings of belief and so the play goes on and on and on according to the Will Of Zion. Our real enemies are not the Arabs or Muslims or Jews or Israelis or Christians or Americans, our real enemy are the Zionist's who call themselves Arabs or Muslims or Jews or Israelis or Christians or Americans.................

This is the truth and once these words are read, if anyone continues pointing the figure of blame at any believer of words, you can be 100% sure They Are Zionist's working as the Puppeteers of Zion. Peace comes to those who no longer play in the game. War continues for those who continue to play the game. Why? Who benefits? The answers are obvious, aren't they.

Arthur Cristian

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SIR JOHN ARCHIBALD H. MEYER Wrote:

DEAR ACHARYA S.,

INDEED..."THOSE, WHO CALL THEMSELVES JEWS, BUT ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN " REV.CH 2.V.9....THEY ARE NOT VERY SMART, BUT THEY ARE DEVILISHLY "CUNNING" .
HISTORY HAS BEEN ABLE TO TEACH US PLENTY ABOUT THEM.

I THINK THE THING THESE CREATURES HATE MOST IS "BEING TOTALLY IGNORED". EVEN BEING TOTALLY IGNORED IS WHAT THEY WILL CALL "ANTI-SEMITISM".

IS IT NOT A STRANGE THING THAT SUCH PERSONS AR CALLED BY THE RELIGION THEY FOLLOW; BECAUSE JUDAEISM IS NOT A RACE, OR TRIBE, OR NATION. THEY MAKE THE WORLD BELIEVE AND ACCEPT THAT THEY ARE A RACE, BUT THEY ARE NOT.

JUDAEISM IS THE MONOTHEISTIC FAITH THAT WAS INSTIGATED BY A NOMADIC TRIBAL KING BY THE NAME OF "JUDAH"...AND HE WAS A KING (PRINCE?) OF AND OVER THE "HEBREWS".

AND THE HEBREWS WERE A NOMADIC MOB, WHICH ORIGINATED IN WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS THE PIECE OF LAND AT THE MOUTH OF THE EUPHRATES...AND GOES BY THE NAME OF "KUWAIT" .
THIS STATE WAS SO MARKED OFF BY THE ENGLISH, WHO SPLIT IS OFF FROM THE ORIGINAL OWNERS...NAMELY IRAQ. ( I COLLECT OLD MAPS AND I HAVE ONE OF THIS AREA OF THE GLOBE, WHICH IS CLEARLY DATED 1808 AD. AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE LINE DIVIDING A PIECE OF LAND AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL IRAQ {MESOPOTAMIA}.)

ACCORDING TO THE QUESTIONABLE STORY IN THE TANAKH, WHERE THIS ABRAHAM WOULD HAVE LEFT HIS LAST CAMP IN THE LAND OF CHALDEA (=KUWAIT?).....THIS QUESTIONABLE ABRAHAM TOOK HIS FAMILY WESTWARD TOWARDS THE THEN REGION KNOWN AS CANA-AN IN THE HOPE TO DO SOME BETTER BUSINESS THERE, BUT THINGS WERE NOT GOING THAT WELL IN BUSINESS, SO THIS ABRAHAM PICKED UP STICKS AND HE SHOVED HIS SISTER/WIFE IN A CONCEALING BASKET AND THEY TRAVELED TO "MSR" (=EGYPT). PLEASE FIND THE "BOOK OF JASHAR" FOR THIS DELECTABLE STORY!!

THE NAME OF THIS THEN ONLY VERY SMALL MOB BECAME THE WORD "HEBREWS", WHICH IS PER SE NOT A WORD INTENDED TO BE A "NAME" AS SUCH, BUT IS ACTUALLY A DESCRIPTIVE, AN ADVERB, OR ADJECTIVE....BUT CERTAINLY "NOT" A NAME......THE WORD INTENDED TO DESCRIBE WHAT THIS LITTLE MOB WAS DOING....NAMELY, "THEY WERE CROSSING THE RIVER/S AND CROSSING THE MANY LANDS"......BUT THAT WORD DOES NOT INTEND, NOR IS IT A PROPER NAME FOR A RACE, TRIBE, OR NATION.

AND WHAT IS MORE.....THE WORD "ABRAHAM" IS 99.99999999999999999 % MIS-TRANSLATED...IT IS MORE THAN LIKELY THAT THIS "PERSONAGE" WAS "A-BRAHMAN"....WITH OTHER WORDS, "ABRAHAM" WAS A "CUNNING" WAY TO COVER UP THE GREAT POSSIBILITY THAT THE RELIGION OF THIS
LAND-CROSSING-MOB WAS FROM THE HINDIS, OR BETTER KNOWN AS INDIA AND AS SUCH THE BELIEFS WERE HINDUISM, WHICH IS BETTER DESCRIBED AS "VEDANTISM".

LET US NOT LET OUT OF SIGHT THAT THE PEOPLES OF THOSE DAYS DID HAVE NOT MUCH SCHOOLING AND UNIVERSITIES WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT ONE IN A TRILLION....SO MOST RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTIONS WERE BY "MOUTH", OR BETTER..."LYING-MOUTH".

I HAVE FOUND THAT RELIGIOUS HISTORY WILL REVEAL A GREAT DEAL MORE TO US THESE DAYS COMPARED TO STUDY OF RELIGION.

WITH KIND REGARDS

SIR JOHN ARCHIBALD H. MEYER

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SIR JOHN ARCHIBALD H. MEYER Wrote:

DEAR RENE,

I HAVE RESPONDED TO THIS POST OF YOURS TO ACHARYA S..

I KNOW IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIGHT AND WITHSTAND TEMPTATION......

HOWEVER I FELL A BIT SAD WHEN THE TEMPTATION, SO UNCONQUERED RELATES TO THE USAGE OF THE HOLLYWOOD-FABRICATION OF THE WORD "NAZI".

LET ME EXPLAIN.....

"NAZI" IS A WORD THAT HAS A VERY BAD SET OF CONNOTATIONS,....AND WE ALL KNOW WHICH ONES, BUT THE WORD DOES NOT IN THE LEAST DESCRIBE THE VERY GOOD INTENTIONS, WHICH ARE EMBEDDED IN THE ORIGINAL GERMAN OF "NAZIONAL SOCIALISMUS".......

I WAS ONLY 7 GOING ON 8 WHEN THE SO-CALLED SECOND WORLD WAS ENDED. AND AS A VERY BRIGHT YOUNG LAD I DO REMEMBER ALL TOO WELL WHAT WAS BEING DONE TO THE COUNTRY I WAS NATIVE TO (THE NETHERLANDS).

LET ME TELL YOU THAT IT WERE THE COUNTLESS BOMBS DROPPED BY THE AMERICANS AND MORE SO BY THE ENGLISH THAT DEVASTATED OUT TOWNSHIP.....AND I KNOW, BECAUSE WE DID COLLECT THE SPLINTERS OF THOSE BOMBS AND THEY SHOWED FROM WHERE THEY HAD COME....NOT ONE BOMB WAS EVER DROPPED ON OUR VILLAGE BY THE GERMANS,....AS A MATTER OF FACT THE GERMANS TREATED US A GREAT DEAL BETTER THAN AMERICANS AND THE ENGLISH EVER DID. I AM 70 YEARS OLD NOW.....AND I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THIS AMERICAN AN ENGLISH WAR CRIME.

THEIR COUNTLESS BOMBS DID MURDER A GREAT NUMBER OF DUTCH CIVILIANS AND WRECKED LARGE PARTS OF OUR TOWN.

"NAZIONAL SOCIALISMUS" INDICATES THAT THIS SOCIALISM IS OF A NATIONAL TYPE AND IS INTENDED TO BENEFIT THE WHOLE NATION.

WHILE THE U.K AND AMERICA WERE HAVING ALL SORTS OF SOCIAL TROUBLE (AND THEY STILL HAVE THEM TODAY) GERMANY WAS BUILDING ROADS AND PROVIDED FOR ITS PEOPLE....WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? UNEMPLOYMENT WAS VIRTUALLY GOTTEN RID OFF....WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. AND I COULD GO ON WITH REPORTING ABOUT A GREAT DEAL MORE THAT WAS BROUGHT ABOUT....AND BROUGHT ABOUT IN CONTRAST TO THE PARASITICAL LIFESTYLE OF PEOPLE, WHO WERE LITERALLY ROBBING THE ORIGINAL GERMAN PEOPLE OF THEIR VERY LIVELIHOOD AND EXISTENCE .

IF ONE WERE TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ AND STUDY INTENTLY THE HISTORY OF EUROPE FROM 1800 TO 1950 A.D., AND DO SO WITH AN OPEN MIND AND POSSIBLY BEING A GOOD BIT OF A REVISIONIST AS WELL, EVERYONE DOING SO WOULD SEE THAT THE CAUSE TO ALL THE TROUBLE IN EUROPE (EXCLUDING THE U.K !!) IT WAS THE U.K THAT WAS BEHIND ALL THE WARS.

LET US NOT FORGET THAT IS WAS INTERNATIONAL JEWRY THAT DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY "FIRST", BEFORE GERMANY RECIPROCATED.

AND IT WAS INTERNATIONAL JEWRY LIVING IN ENGLAND AND HIDING BEHIND THE ENGLISH GOVERNMENT, WHICH THEY HAD UNDER THEIR CONTROL THAT DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY "FIRST".....AND FOR ABSOLUTELY NO VALID REASON !!!!!

THE WORD IS "NAZIONAL SOCIALISMUS" AND NOT "NAZI" (WHICH IS A HOLLYWOODCREATION ).

WITH KIND REGARDS

SIR JOHN ARCHIBALD H. MEYER

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Renee Wrote:
LOL! The "Juice" don't have to be omnipotent and they aren't. I am not saying there is not a greater power behind them, or a coalition, but everywhere I look, I see Jooze holding powerful positions in
states they refuse to assimilate into. Do you think the Catolics are more powerful, the Moneychists, the Fleasmasons or do you have something else in mind. Come on...spill your beans..lol!

I haven't read Loftus' book in years now (It is still in a box somewhere) and only have a vague memory of it's contentions. I remember writing in it page by page in confutation of much of it(that
is confutation with myself...ha ha ha! Everyone's gonna think I am possessed!). I give him credit for trying and his right to present his side of the story.

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Archarya S Wrote:
Yes dear, I can tell you've been reading Loftus's "Secret War Against the Jews." I lent that book out about 15 years ago and never got it back. Really, I think you give way too much power to the Jooooos.
Not that there haven't been sneaky Joooish plots of consequence, but omnipotent they ain't.

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Renee Wrote:

OH! OH! What did I get myself into...lol! I am going to have to define every word!

Hey Rene, the only reason for defining any words when I'm conversing here with you is just so that I can understand what you're saying. I don't care how you define them. I just want to know since sometimes I might not give the same meaning to a particular word that you do. Furthermore, I'm not personally concerned with the "truth" of a word nor do I feel the personal need to insist on any consensus necessarily since my main goal is to understand your meaning and then converse with you. Also, I might need to tell you what meaning I'm giving a word so that you can get what I"m saying.

If we were talking in person I'd be easier to have a conversation on all the points you've brought up etc. But, I'm going to limit myself to bits and pieces.

Ok, so right now I'm talking to you...that would be a person who chooses NOT to affiliate with an ism. Your thinking would to some extent differ from a person choosing to affiliate. But, that's another story since you are not them :)

> ***Action of either the negative or the positive kind when applied in
> the moral act of humanity or inhumanity without the aura of an
> affiliation of an "ism" is a personal choice that morally defines
> such a person under no external pressure to behave thusly. This is
> the natural human being...both good and bad.***

The above sounds like you see yourself as a natural human being capable of personal moral choices which you make without being garbed in an ism aura, the likes of which you see as exerting external
pressure on persons who are garbed in such auras.

> ***If by affiliation under indoctrination (a form of coercion) you
> are compelled to think by the written word or the oral word of a
> teacher, preacher, professor, parent, strongman that "infidels"
> should be killed, that women are property etc. then you have been
> committed to a potential or real action, at some point in your near
> future to behave as you are directed of suffer the consequences of
> rejection. If this is a prescription of an "ism" called Islam,
> founded by a prophet called Mo and take direction from an authority
> called an Imam or Ayatollah..then that describes who you are and what
> you will do.

Might I add that using the above particular scenario the ism acts as a sort of environment that a person finds themselves compelled to deal with. This environment differs from the "natural" environment (nature) in that it is wholly a construction of human thought.

>
> ***If affiliation by choice, you have committed yourself to follow
> this thinking (abstractual concept or "ism") then you are defined by
> your choice to follow this pattern of thinking in your actions
> (otherwise, why would you choose it?). This is the natural human
> choosing to be an inhumane "ism"***
>

If I am following you, then I'm understanding you to be explaining how it is that the choice to follow an ism does indeed have direct connection to the actions you may take. You make a sort of "leap"
from action to being (or should I say you engage in some creative concept-making) when you use the verb "to be" to describe some sort of what almost seems like a metamorphosis of a "natural human" into an "inhuman 'ism'"

I wrote that "In

> > your particular case you have given some reasons for your action of
> > choice in the case of religious affiliation etc." It was an

awkward sentence and you wrote back with

> ***I am not sure you meant the above to come out as it did..."

I did mean it to come out as it did, but somehow the meaning was lost to you. So let me explain: I simply meant something along the lines of you choose to NOT affiliate which is a choice based on your
conceptions of religious affiliation.

You continued with "but I

> have no "religious affiliation". I may have a personal "ism", which
> is not constrained by doctrinaire coercion, but naturally based upon
> my own Free-thought and research into evidence and analysis of any
> subject you care to name. My "ism" is not a closed system, cause I
> always have the free-choice to change it upon more and better
> evidence, disposal of faulty insights etc. as I discover them by
> myself or through the assistance of others in voluntary communion.***"

It seems that you feel a good deal of personal choice and freedom in your conceptual world etc. Although this is about you, I wish to add that there are a good number of humans who while being affiliated with a particular ism would still see themselves as free moral and thinking agents, as you see yourself. Of course, you know that. As to which systems are more open and closed and why and how etc. is an interesting side discussion.

> You added that "Anyone of these individuals adhering to these
> doctrines can reject them at any time they come to see how deceiving and
> plain simply wrong they are."

If an individual winds up seeing their ism as "deceiving and plain simply wrong they are" then, yes, they may make some new choices. But, keep in mind that this way of defining isms may not be a
universal truth. However, it is yours.

> ***A doctrine is a dogmatic coercion to believe by concensus or by
> authority. To quote: They must find it difficult...those who have
> taken authority as truth, rather than truth as the Authority. Gerald
> Massey, Eygptologist".***

So says Gerald Massey, Egyptologist :) ummm, ok....So, I take it that's your working definition of choice?

> If for being anti-Talmudic, anti-Zionist, anti-Judaist, I should
> be labelled with and arbitrarily affiliated with "anti-semites"
> (when in fact, it should be said anti-jewish as if that were as clear as a
> cloudless sky!)...so be it.

Yes, alas, what can you do? So, have you been labeled that way a lot? I haven't been following the forum lately so is that what's going on with you?

> ***I hope you understand, that I am not labelling myself. I am simply
> opposed to immoral doctrinaire, brainwashing, manipulative, demeaning
> etc. abstractual concepts that are formalised "isms" of affiliations. "

I don't care for such bully tactics, either.

Rene: If I should be labelled anything, it is a

> FREE-thinker***

hey, Rene, also would you be ok with the label "natural human" naked without the aura ism garb?

I snipped out the part where you explained that when humans are born they don't come out
"Catholic" or whatever...just the natural human. I think I"m clear on how you see it.

> ***If you are referring to the specific label of Jew, that is very
> much complicated and confused.

Rene, I was referring to the meaning any particular person who labels themselves as a Jewish person means it. I think the meaning any individual gives to the words they use to be worth listening to so we
can understand their meaning and understanding of themselves. Thank you for the history review, which I was familiar with...well, a fair amount of it, but you have obviously done a good deal of research on this and the contribution is appreciated.

I wrote that :> >

> I can see advantages to choosing not to affiliate with any "ism".
> You have named some advantages that you find meaning in through your
> choice such as feeling that you have more flexibility to "call it as "I"
> see things." Some advantages to affiliation might be calling things as
> "they" see it which simply means talking someone else's "language"
> etc. which also allows for a different sort of flexibility.

You answered:> ***Don't know where you are going with that!

I'm going where I go. That's probably why you didn't know.

Rene: Now you see what I see,

> with a little help from some facts....or maybe you just think they
> are opinions!

Now I see a little better what you see, how you see it etc. But, I'm sure I don't see it all. There are many complex reasons we all turn out the way we do. My opinion is that some of your thinking is
definitely opinion. This "seeing" business is much like the work of an artist in that there is a style, a focus, a composition, a perspective, choices are made in the drawing of boundaries, the use of
contrast etc. etc.

Of course, "I" don't have ALL the facts, but enough to

> see past the haze with my ghost-buster...lol!***

I think you have your ghost-buster in decent working order.

> ***What are the actions of those Muslims, Christians or Jews but to
> simply swallow and follow...period (the vast majority anyway!)***

That's one view.

> ***Just a hint...there is no 3, there is just 3 parts of ONE. You are
> correct in the order, but my implication was that the creators of
> Torah/Talmud, it's caretakers and directors are the Mother of the
> other two.***

Along that line, way in the past I had posted about a comic book describing the vatican's link to creation of Islam.

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Renee Wrote:
It may be an oversimplification to identify the Saudimites as being of the same tribe in using that term "tribe" literally-speaking. The origins of the House of Saud are murky, but there is a persistant,
though certainly not widely held claim by Muslim/Arabs that the Sauds originated as Crypto-Jews.

Naturally, Jews can no longer (if ever) be described as tribal-descendants of some tribal House of Judah. I just like to flip the term tribal in a mental sense (can I do that? lol!).

I know the Rothschilds are AshkeNAZI (I couldn't resist!) and the Sauds may be of Sephardic origin, if indeed there is any truth to the claim of them being crypto-Jews. I don't have the reaearch capabiities to verify this. I just find it oddly possible that such a claim might exist at all among some stream of Arabs. If this claim was an early part of an Arab historical record in opposition to the founder of the House of Saud, it would have some merit. I am in no doubt however to crypto-Jews forming a fifth column within "Islam", as it had in Christianity since it was offically established by Constantine (You would think he would have insisted this fictional godman to be German, Roman or British).

Who are these "American" authorities who cultivated this friendly relationship with the Saudimites? Of course, you know what I am going to say about that!

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Arthur Cristian Wrote:

Dylan
You obviously are into religion, you have a poisoned pen!

The truth is the truth. The truth has nothing to do with religion or being a believer etc. Its a free-will choice how we each choose to behave with each other. We choose love. You don't have to. It's ok if you want to choose to write us off today and a be real lover of life tomorrow. We refuse this kind of see-saw experience as its too damaging to ourselves and our children. We still have 4 young daughters (one a 4 month old baby) to care for even though we have had all our wealth stolen (everything stolen from us - home, money, assets, business, $200k annual income) by terrible bank fraud condoned by numerous judges. We are currently 100% destitute and we no longer have enough money to even feed ourselves properly every week, but this does not faze us and through love we are doing something powerful to fix this psychotic intellectualised madness of this fantasized modern world, which you currently seem to entertain with glee. We know that other real men and women will love us by supporting us financially and keep alive the love for life campaign. If we are not loved, then humanity as we know it today, is beyond total recall and the consequences around the corner are massive indeed. Without the bonds that binds together real community life, humanity will implode like an atomic bomb shortly.

We are only victims if we allow ourselves to believe we are victims. We choose to be lovers of real life and set the example to our children, friends and others that love is the way at all times. Those of "The Law" and those who honour, protect, encourage, nurture, support, inspire, enforce, work in, work for and who expand "The Law" are very very sick people who have lost their way through real life. They need to be healed of their madness, their insanity, and confronting them directly through acts of love (the truth - evidence), in the court room like we are currently doing, has them freaking out. They do not know what to do with us. They just can't kill us or set us up with lies and have us put away or have our children taken away from us etc etc. We have a high profile now due to our actions.

We knew from the very beginning that the safest place to be was completely right out into the open, if we are going directly after the judges, politicians, the banksters and the mainstream media with its constant wall of silence and prove that they are an organised Terrorist Organisation (A Crime Syndicate) that is terrorising the people, who are intentionally working overtime to break the bonds of real community life. We also knew that we have to WAKE UP THE SHEEPLE from their mind-controlled induced slumber if we are to achieve a great victory. The sheeple are willing themselves to break away from their duty to real community life and focus ALL their attention on being in duty to their intellectualised fiction-fantasy word-stories, that makes them self-centred.

That is why I write to Superconsciousness and every other person or group we can reach, and inspire them (if possible) through us WALKING THE TALK. Are we martyrs? No we are not. We are just being normal, healthy real flesh and blood men and women, living in the real world. We are refusing to be seduced and bound to the dictates of fantasies. We are refusing to increase the numbers of lost souls on earth, who are currently rebelling against the real world, by joining with them. The asylum of the human intellect is not for us. We love life and are determined to protect the real world from being completely and utterly destroyed by men and women lost to the worshipping of their self-centred false idols of the truth.

As we indicated, the brainwashing of word stories is so extensive that black has become white and white has become black. Being desensitized (brainwashed) from the truth (like putting your tongue down your throat to say vomit vomit vomit) when you read our correspondence with words of love being used, proves the point that black has become white and white has become black. If words of love have you seek to polarise yourself from us, to ignore us, to write us off, just reflects and reveals just how sick men and women have become today. If it takes ranting of the truth to help wake others up then so be it. But we are not here to be a nuisance or an irritant nor do we want to be waving our flag either by shoving it down your throat. But if we are being written off, we have a healthy loving tendency to stand up for the truth so that we are not being categorised/pigeonholed and our credibility is being questioned, leading to character assassinations. We are not about being on an ego trip or being righteous or being arrogant either. We are just not going to sit around and wait for others to fix these most serious psychological problems.

There are hundreds of thousands of families being individually destroyed, by "The Law", one by one, isolated and apart from each other, without the protection of community, and most of the members of these families are in fear or are ashamed or feel powerless to do anything about it. This is where we come into the picture. The upper class (not the upper-upper class-the establishment) and the middle class of Australia, Canada, USA, NZ, UK etc are being brutally attacked and terrorised by the crime syndicate and the media has put up an absolute wall of silence to these atrocities. There is a very good reason why the establishment is doing this. They do not want any fortified resistance from those who have the money to fight against them, with what the establishment is planning to force upon all of us, shortly.

Arthur Cristian

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DYLAN88 wrote:

You sure do a lot of ranting for a love of life campaign.

You are starting to sound like all the other believers of all the other belief systems It is all about love, god is love, love, love, love......
Next step often ends up,
Love like us or we will kill you!

Hitchens is right, RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING!

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Renee Said

That they are of the "same tribe" is an oversimplification, no? We are all aware that the "American" authorities since the 1920s at least have had a friendly relationship with the Saudis. That's why the
Saudis have received enough money to destroy civilization by implementing their bizarre and gruesome cult everywhere.

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Nick Wrote:

Thanx A&F,
I think Mike believes, like most others, that without the "LAW" , we would have anarchy and chaos. Little does he know that the ones who invented and enforce the "LAW", have created such a state of chaos, purposely, to keep us in economic/spiritual slavery, and under their thumbs.

Without the "LAW" we would all have the pure food and the shelter what we require to sustain/nurture us, FOR FREE, like the Creator intended, so we could then live in peace and harmony with ourselves and others. We would then have the time to explore our creativity and expand our consciousness, which is the TRUE reason for our existence!

Most accept the slavery system, we live under today, because they have been told repeatedly that they are free, and are lucky, compared to people in other countries. (That BS was drilled into me as a child) They know of no other way of existence, and "make the best, of a bad situation", while supporting that same slavery system and gatekeeping others who want to escape/change it!

THE WHOLE SYSTEM SUCKS, IT ALWAYS HAS SUCKED, AND IT NEEDS TO BE OVERHAULED, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, AND/OR REPLACED WITH ONE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!

A great way to start this process, would be to educate ourselves on the Creator's UNIVERSAL LAWS and to start following/living them, IMMEDIATELY! We would then begin to see/experience some harmony/LOVE in our lives, and thus, exude that energy of LOVE/harmony, all around us!

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It was a simple act. A fish came up to the surface of the pond to snatch a bite for dinner. Hearing the splash, I watched as the ripples spread out. They continued to move in all directions until they reached the edges of the pond. It reminded me of the breadth and reach of every thought we have. It made me realize how important it is to choose our thoughts wisely.
Thanx.....Nick.

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Cheryl Wrote:

[Hello Cheryl! You are so correct. This was a rant and it was indeed sloppy...lol! I was so tired when I typed it out. In re-reading it in a rested state of mind, I can see all the typos etc. I made...yeesh!]

Hi Rene,
Oh, I didn't mean sloppy in the typing sense. I didn't really notice any typos.

[I am trying to be provocative, but not just for it's own sake. I guess my best answer to yours and Mike's inferences is: You are what you think or are educated to think and believe. Yes, isms are abstractions acted upon or (inversely not acted upon, if it favors your abstractions).

I know it is difficult not to generalise. If I speak about Muslims or Zionist Christians, how do I get a point across without referring to "them" and "they", without casting aspersions on real individual persons. What would you have me do...name each individual who holds these abstractions and acts upon them, even if only giving their silent consent? I do not for example refer to all who call themselves "Jews" as being vile racio-religous supremacists. Neither, do I believe all who call themselves Christians adhere to it's vilest aspects (many I know are opposed to fighting criminal ideologies with violence).

Re: What Mike said: "Show what one does and you tell what they are. I gage by the act, not by affiliation. " -Mike

It is not quite that simple. One doesn't have to DO anything, but one might act by not acting, or reserving oneself to act upon one's affiliation at some point. However, I might not want to be
"affiliated" with any one group whose basis is built on fraud, practised deception and contemptuous exclusivity for example. I could be a Jew for all you know (I do have Jewish relatives in my bigger family tree), but why would I continue to affiliate with a name, an abstractual "ism" of this kind, unless I was only straddling the fence (just in case).]

I agree with the idea that the choice of affiliation can be a sort of action. So, the question remains: what might be the meaning of the action? In your particular case you have given some reasons for your action of choice in the case of religious affiliation etc. There could be a good variety of reasons and meanings given for any particular person's choice in such matters.

[I mean the same can be said for Muslim "ism", Christian "ism" or any other "ism". Anyone of these individuals adhering to these doctrines can reject them at any time they come to see how deceiving and plain simply wrong they are.]

Ok, just a thought...some people have drawn a contrast (generalization sort of activity) between distinctly "western" views on "doctrine", the meaning of doctrines, the nature of doctrines, their relationship to "beliefs" and "eastern" views where the "acceptance" or "rejection" of doctrine involves more than seeing them as simply "wrong" or "deceiving". I am not necessarily making any comment on your own views to doctrine at this point...just inserting a little point that seems relevant.

Really, who needs to belong to an "ism"?!

Another question: do people actually belong to "isms"? People do often identify themselves by commenting on some "isms" that they seem to have some sort of relationship to. But, as you point out, what sort of relationship etc. might there be? How might the idea of "belonging" be applied in the multi-faceted experience of any particular person in place and time?

[Some would deign me to belong to an anti-semite "ism". Others will define me or label me as an anti-Christ-"ism" and so on. I didn't invent either the "ism" or it's anti-"ism". I didn't invent "anti- gentilism" either, but at least in the latter case, it is more accurate a descriptive of Talmudism, than is the label anti-semitism when applied to me. " If for being anti-Talmudic, anti-Zionist, anti-Judaist, I should be
labelled with and arbitrarily affiliated with "anti-semites" (when in fact, it should be said anti-jewish as if that were as clear as a cloudless sky!)...so be it.]

Good point. It's interesting the various categories we make up for each other. And as you say it may not be at all how you would define yourself.

[That is definitely not how it is or how I see it. There never was such thing as an ethnic Jew or if you prefer Iudi or Iuda, just as there is no such thing as a born Catholic or Christian of any kind.]

As to what there is or isn't, again, it's like you said...people make up labels/definitions etc. When you say there is no such thing, do you mean that in the sense that it's a human invention/label? Because for those that apply these labels to themselves they mean something by it. The question is what does it mean to any particular person applying this label to themselves?

[Juda-ism as we call it TODAY originated as an "ISM". A semite is an arbitrary term applied to a language group to which original CONSCRIPTS of the religon in it's infancy belonged. Today's Muslims
belong to the same language group...key word is language. Racially, those original adherents were more closely related to the Afro-Asiatics, but NOT totally homogenous. Nor did all so-called "Jews" or even the greatest population of them ever exist in Palestine. Most of today's "Jews" are not of the semitic language group, though a great deal of them are of Euro-Asiatic stock--to wit, being converts to an "ism". It is after all the "ism" that I oppose--not the ethnicity, the race, or the color of the skin.]

That's a nice sort of historical overview of the "evolution" of an "ism". On an individual level a particular person who affiliates on some level with this whole whatever has their particular story as to how it is they come to identify themselves with the ism in the way they do. Maybe some of the reasons have to do with believing and identifying with a particular story that was passed on to them etc. etc.

[So why would the term "Semites" be applied to a language group, almost as a racial term and why should the Judaists choose to call anyone opposing their "ism" anti-semites? I am only trying to deal
in facts and implications.]

Ok, I'll venture a guess...tell me if it fits your ideas: their story identifies them as semite. Also, maybe (but I'm not so sure about this one) their story places their origins as a people as an all-encompassing culturally and geographically sort of deal. Maybe their is a grand and golden past used as inspirational future vision. Maybe in psychological terms this could be some sort of collective grandiose thinking...humans like to reach for the stars.

[No one has a problem lumping Muslims altogether by their "ism" (well some do...but it is ie
"moderate" arguement for or against "them" and "their" evil plots that is debated). It is fine to generalise in that case.]

I agree that it's next to impossible to not generalize without getting very wordy. I can only suggest not using pronouns like them or they for isms since it is not a person. However, I understand that in English "they" and "them" are not exclusive to humans. "They" are words.

[It is also fine not to rise up against accusations against Muslims, but dare mention their brother
"semites" and suddenly certain things are NOT okay--defensive reactions are raised. I take note of who does or does not perk up when debates, or points are made in reference to either of these
"affiliates".]

Double standard, no?

[I don't affiliate with any "ism". I make my determinations based on many sources of a wide variety without subjecting myself to the prejudices of the sources. Essentially, I call it as "I" see things. I may not be totally accurate in either my facts or interpretations, but I fear nor favor any but what I can conceive as truthful. I am always ready to hear a counterpoint to my perspective, but I won't be sidetracked by argumentations about "affiliations", group vs. individual, actions vs. isms. If those arguements should hold up, then it should hold for one group as for another.]

I can see advantages to choosing not to affiliate with any "ism". You have named some advantages that you find meaning in through your choice such as feeling that you have more flexibility to "call it as "I" see things." Some advantages to affiliation might be calling things as "they" see it which simply means talking someone else's "language" etc. which also allows for a different sort of flexibility.

[I detect in some people a "reaction" to a perception that has been drilled into them as a result of great propaganda efforts at least in this day, so that they are compelled to respond unevenly or sidetrack an issue where they may not do so upon a different one.]

Sorry, but I'm not understanding how you view "ism" versus action and I'd like to understand why it seems to you like a distraction. Do you mean it's not a meaning distinction to you because of how you define ism and action? You started out this post here by saying that

["You are what you think or are educated to think and believe. Yes, isms are abstractions acted upon or (inversely not acted upon, if it favors your abstractions).

So, ...in your mind an "ism" by definition includes action and it's artificial and not helpful to make a false distinction? So, when you think of an ism you include any and all actions that might accompany that ism...to include the action you mentioned earlier of affiliation? Ok. So, then for me the next question is the complicated issue of the relationship of ism to action in it's multi-variant expressions.

[Such may not be conciously aware of doing this. As far as I know, I have no sacred cows. I know damn well that the Muslim religon is insane. I also know the Jewish religon is insane. I also know that the Christian religon is insane. All are dangerous. The essential basis of all of them is the BOOK and for Jews moreso, it is the vile Talmud and the mystical clap-trap of Kabbalah.]

You know what you know. Being man-made, these religions on some levels collectively express human experience etc. Part of that experience might be insanity. The idea of an "essential basis" existing and that "essential basis" being the BOOK seems to be the way you like to look at it. Any influence these various religions have in people's lives involves a web of related forces.

[So clearly, I reject all of them and seek to expose all of them, BUT...which is the most insidious and powerful of them all. As Mike said, by their actions...or by their fruits you will know them. I have watched "them" for years. I have watched "their" subsidiaries for years. I have read much of their doctrines and their history (from their mouths and their enemies), though I may not be able to quote them by rote off the top of my head at times. When I appear to single out "Judaism" as the glue cementing them all, (for reasons likely not apparent to many and distasteful to some), I am being quite serious and provocative...not out of hatred, but a love for truth, peace, humanity and all the best that I can conceive of.]

I am of the opinion that the meaning any individual gives to their words can be best known by them...so, if you say you your perspectives etc. are motivated by your love for truth, peace, humanity etc. I am inclined to believe you unless your actions indicate otherwise...likewise I would tend to believe a Muslim, Christian, or Jew if they said the same motivated them even if I found their choice of ism foriegn. But their actions would in the end tell me more about their core values than any particular doctrinal garb etc.

[You may interpret this as HATE or whatever; but remember, when you accuse or criticise someone of something infamous are you also being hateful? When you react in one case, but not another are you being prejudicial? Do you ask for proofs in one case as against another? Are you ignoring evidences that shines a bad light on one case over another?

I will finish this new rant up by simply provoking you to the idea that Islam is a tool of Zion, just as Christianity is, both being stirred against each other in the service of Zion and it's Judeo-Talmudic roots. To favor either is to favor the first. To favor the first over the later is to favor the first. The roots of political ideology are found in the first. The activities of the later are compelled by the first. It was the first's aim to have the latter invade by stealth (like the proverbial camel) the nations of the second and the second to invade the third. So it is to all, but majorly the FIRST that one must look to as the greatest hidden danger to humanity's well-being.]

Let me get this straight: the first --Zion, the second--Christianity, the third--Islam? That would be in their order of origin, yes? So you are describing a sort of dynamic having to do with a certain aspect of relationship between these isms? This is like rock, paper scissors...well, sort of. As far as favoring of these various characters, they share a common stage and script. There are constraints in the potential dialogue. Arguments over "authoritative territory" (that would be something like claiming an authoritative stake") are ongoing. In common among the characters is an appeal to a sort of moral authority embodied in the Creator concept. Arguments on this moral territory weigh in at about the same for all three contestants--seeing as how they all claim the same boss. Now they get to argue about whose the favoritist kid in the family? Well, the first born likes to make a pitch, of course. But then, you get the incarnate son who weighs in with a fairly hefty argument, well, if you play with these cards, and then who is to argue with the son who humbly likes to acknowledge his humanity and therefor high moral standing (as far as humans can go) when the argument is for One as opposed to three and THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE :) Okay, it'd be funny if it weren't taken so seriously to the point of war etc. ---which of course all three like to boast of the god given moral authority to wage war.

Cheryl

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Renee Wrote:

Hello Cheryl! You are so correct. This was a rant and it was indeed sloppy...lol! I was so tired when I typed it out. In re-reading it in a rested state of mind, I can see all the typos etc. I made...yeesh! I am trying to be provocative, but not just for it's own sake. I guess my best answer to yours and Mike's inferences is: You are what you think or are educated to think and believe. Yes, isms are abstractions acted upon or (inversely not acted upon, if it favors your abstractions).

I know it is difficult not to generalise. If I speak about Muslims or Zionist Christians, how do I get a point across without referring to "them" and "they", without casting aspersions on real individual
persons. What would you have me do...name each individual who holds these abstractions and acts upon them, even if only giving their silent consent? I do not for example refer to all who call
themselves "Jews" as being vile racio-religous supremacists. Neither, do I believe all who call themselves Christians adhere to it's vilest aspects (many I know are opposed to fighting criminal ideologies with violence).

Re: What Mike said: "Show what one does and you tell what they are. I gage by the act, not by affiliation. " -Mike

It is not quite that simple. One doesn't have to DO anything, but one might act by not acting, or reserving oneself to act upon one's affiliation at some point. However, I might not want to be
"affiliated" with any one group whose basis is built on fraud, practised deception and contemptuous exclusivity for example. I could be a Jew for all you know (I do have Jewish relatives in my bigger family tree), but why would I continue to affiliate with a name, an abstractual "ism" of this kind, unless I was only straddling the fence (just in case).

I mean the same can be said for Muslim "ism", Christian "ism" or any other "ism". Anyone of these individuals adhering to these doctrines can reject them at any time they come to see how deceiving and plain simply wrong they are. Really, who needs to belong to an "ism"?! Some would deign me to belong to an anti-semite "ism". Others will define me or label me as an anti-Christ-"ism" and so on. I didn't invent either the "ism" or it's anti-"ism". I didn't invent "anti-gentilism" either, but at least in the latter case, it is more accurate a descriptive of Talmudism, than is the label anti-semitism when applied to me.

If for being anti-Talmudic, anti-Zionist, anti-Judaist, I should be labelled with and arbitrarily affiliated with "anti-semites" (when in fact, it should be said anti-jewish as if that were as clear as a cloudless sky!)...so be it. That is definitely not how it is or how I see it. There never was such thing as an ethnic Jew or if you prefer Iudi or Iuda, just as there is no such thing as a born Catholic or Christian of any kind.

Juda-ism as we call it TODAY originated as an "ISM". A semite is an arbitrary term applied to a language group to which original CONSCRIPTS of the religon in it's infancy belonged. Today's Muslims
belong to the same language group...key word is language. Racially, those original adherents were more closely related to the Afro-Asiatics, but NOT totally homogenous. Nor did all so-called "Jews" or
even the greatest population of them ever exist in Palestine. Most of today's "Jews" are not of the semitic language group, though a great deal of them are of Euro-Asiatic stock--to wit, being converts to an "ism". It is after all the "ism" that I oppose--not the ethnicity, the race, or the color of the skin.

So why would the term "Semites" be applied to a language group, almost as a racial term and why should the Judaists choose to call anyone opposing their "ism" anti-semites? I am only trying to deal
in facts and implications. No one has a problem lumping Muslims altogether by their "ism" (well some do...but it is the "moderate" arguement for or against "them" and "their" evil plots that is debated). It is fine to generalise in that case. It is also fine not to rise up against accusations against Muslims, but dare mention their brother "semites" and suddenly certain things are NOT okay-- defensive reactions are raised. I take note of who does or does not perk up when debates, or points are made in reference to either of these "affiliates".

I don't affiliate with any "ism". I make my determinations based on many sources of a wide variety without subjecting myself to the prejudices of the sources. Essentially, I call it as "I" see things.
I may not be totally accurate in either my facts or interpretations, but I fear nor favor any but what I can conceive as truthful. I am always ready to hear a counterpoint to my perspective, but I won't be
sidetracked by argumentations about "affiliations", group vs. individual, actions vs. isms. If those arguements should hold up, then it should hold for one group as for another.

I detect in some people a "reaction" to a perception that has been drilled into them as a result of great propaganda efforts at least in this day, so that they are compelled to respond unevenly or sidetrack an issue where they may not do so upon a different one. Such may not be conciously aware of doing this. As far as I know, I have no sacred cows. I know damn well that the Muslim religon is insane. I also know the Jewish religon is insane. I also know that the Christian religon is insane. All are dangerous. The essential basis of all of them is the BOOK and for Jews moreso, it is the vile Talmud
and the mystical clap-trap of Kabbalah.

So clearly, I reject all of them and seek to expose all of them, BUT...which is the most insidious and powerful of them all. As Mike said, by their actions...or by their fruits you will know them. I have watched "them" for years. I have watched "their" subsidiaries for years. I have read much of their doctrines and their history (from their mouths and their enemies), though I may not be able to quote them by rote off the top of my head at times. When I appear to single out "Judaism" as the glue cementing them all, (for reasons likely not apparent to many and distasteful to some), I am being quite serious and provocative...not out of hatred, but a love for truth, peace, humanity and all the best that I can conceive of.

You may interpret this as HATE or whatever; but remember, when you accuse or criticise someone of something infamous are you also being hateful? When you react in one case, but not another are you being prejudicial? Do you ask for proofs in one case as against another? Are you ignoring evidences that shines a bad light on one case over another?

I will finish this new rant up by simply provoking you to the idea that Islam is a tool of Zion, just as Christianity is, both being stirred against each other in the service of Zion and it's Judeo-Talmudic roots. To favor either is to favor the first. To favor the first over the later is to favor the first. The roots of political ideology are found in the first. The activities of the later are compelled by the first. It was the first's aim to have the latter invade by stealth (like the proverbial camel) the nations of the
second and the second to invade the third. So it is to all, but majorly the FIRST that one must look to as the greatest hidden danger to humanity's well-being.

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Arthur Cristian Wrote:

Mike
We are talking about love here. There is no limit to how we express our love for each other, our love for all of life. Love is Love. I never used the word ONE or ONE WAY OR ONE VIEW as you are suggesting. I used the words [Only through a love for all of life, a community of love (I am in duty to you and you are in duty to me) are we able to finally free ourselves from the psychological entrapment of Zion's sandpit, which we call Fantasyland (Hell).]

Generally speaking in context to what your saying, There is only ONE way to poo, ONE way to wee, ONE way to eat, ONE way to smell, ONE way to taste, ONE way to make a baby, ONE way for the baby to come out etc etc etc etc. There is ONE sun, ONE moon, ONE Mike-mc, etc etc. There is a real order to the universe, to everything (every aspect) of life and the real order protects our real lives from CHAOS.

The Rule of Law.....Whose Rule Of Law? I don't recall meeting or creating this rule of law. I don't ever recall being asked during my last 49 years of life if it was OK that I can have Rule of Law in my life.

Who is this rule of law? Where does Rule of Law live? What does rule of law look like?

I then call out to Rule of Law "Hellooooooooo Rule Of Law", please talk to me.....Helloooo, anyone there? I wan't to talk to you Rule of Law........ Gees.........No answer...........Rule of law is not there!!!!

Oh dear, I better look he/she up in the phone book, on the net etc, just in case. Ring -Ring - Ring Ring..... "Number please" - Hello Operator, can I have the number for Rule Of Law. "What town sir?" Oh gees I really don't know. "Sorry Sir, but there is no Rule Of Law showing up in our database. Sorry I can't help you." Thanks Operator For trying, have a pleasant afternoon.

I go to town and ask people walking on the street...excuse me do you know a Rule Of Law? No sorry I don't.

After trying for a few days and exhausting all my options, I have come to the conclusion that Rule Of Law just does not exist, it must not be real..... Ho Hum....

Unfortunately Mike, I have some earth shattering news for you. "The Rule Of Law" is a fantasy, It ain't real. Its only just words.

Put "The Law" in the garden and watch something real like fruit or vegetables grow out of it or put "The Law" in the corner of a room and see if it walks or talks. Left alone for a hundred years without human contact or interference from a natural event like an earthquake, the book will have collected dust, not moved a millimetre, never talked, while out in the garden, the law will have grown nothing. How disappointing.

Gees I am Hungry, I will try to eat a Law Book...Crunch...Chew...Swallow......Yuk...Its horrible and makes my tummy feel real sick....

So In hindsight,The Rule Of Law does not talk, walk, I can't eat it to aid my real life longevity....The Rule Of Law Is Absolutely Useless and yet Mike wants me to believe in the Rule Of Law.

Mike, you are not trying to set me up here are you, have me believe this myth called The Rule Of Law only to get me put away into a mental asylum and have the keys thrown out?

Or is it that you are suggesting I join the rest of the world who are already insane and locked up in the mental asylum?

Mike, I am committed to living in the real world with real people who live with real feelings which communicate through their real conscience and their real sense of morality, at all times SAYING, "DO NO HARM".

Why would I want to become insane and put all my trust in words that are in truth, but a fantasy. Is it not obvious to you already that all the chaos of the human experience stems ONLY from fantasies which reside in the intellect as words. Can't you already see that it is words and the belief in words, the faith in words and the opinions with words that makes a real flesh and blood man, woman or child turn their back on truth, peace, freedom, justice, fairness, prosperity and love etc?

Can't you see that when we ignore our hearts (real feelings) we open the doors to welcome Chaos into our lives.
Love Mike, Love Is The Only Way.

So why should I put my belief or my faith or my opinions (my attention - my focus - my duty) in The Rule Of Law, when it is nothing?

The real world is suffocating due to words and real men and women have become lunatics in a word-story mental asylum destroying everything that is real in the real world because the fiction-fantasy word-stories tell them to behave like this.

No wars or evil ways start from the heart. They always start and perpetuate ONLY in the head!

Words are nothing - Real feelings are real.

Life is beautiful and powerful when felt through the heart and bloody ugly and destructive with words from the head.

Its time to throw out words and usher in real feelings, to force the heart to lead and the head to follow.

Arthur Cristian

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Mike / m c wrote:

The claim to have the one and ony way or view is the automatic condemnation of all other ways or views. The only difference between a rut and a grave is its depth. In all things social, the rule of law as commonly agreed upon by the constituants of that law is the glue of civilized behavior. Beware of catch terms, phrases and generalizations that class people and hold them in contempt... propaganda is the tool of the fanatic anzealot and they do not have your goodwill at heart.

Mike

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Nick Wrote:

[m c wrote: Show what one does and you tell what they are. I gage by the act, not by affiliation. If Zionists seek a one world order and they have been around as long as you say... then they have to be the greatest failures, if not joke, of all time. Joining a group only makes it easier to spot them. It draws attention to them and their activities. There is a difference between committing a crime and merely having a belief. As with the Muslim, the Christian, the communist... radical elements will arise. It's a human weakness that sees itself as superior to others and seeks to dominate.
Mike]

Thanx A&F, this guy, Mike, by his comments, is obviously, still under the hypnotic spell of the MATRIX, and it's indoctrination system!!!!

Guess what???, one has to REALIZE, there is a problem, before one can correct it! Which cave has he been living in, I wonder??? And it is OK to support or, ignore, an evil/false fraudulent system or religion, so long as one does not actually do the deed or,commit the crime???

Nottttttttttt!!!!!!! THERE IS GUILT BY ASSOCIATION 99.9 % of the time! He has no idea that every MAINSTREAM, group, affiliation out there is CONTROLLED, and ALLOWED to be there, so long as it serves THEIR purpose!!!! AND LOOKING THE OTHER WAY, IS AIDING AND ABETTING THESE SCUM!!!!

MOST HAVE NO IDEA HOW FAR-REACHING THE WHOLE CONSPIRACY IS!!! They have no idea they have DEGENERATED, to less than an animal, because they have been told they are a "modern" man! I USUALLY TELL THE DRONES TO LOOK UP IN THE SKY, TO FIND/SEE THE "CONSPIRACY."(CHEMTRAILS) Nick.

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Arthur Cristian Said:

Sorry to disappoint you Mike, but the Serfs/Commoners have already been and still are under the control of a One World Order since at least when the myth of English History Began. "THE LAW" of "The Establishment" (the select few with their Divine Appointed Royal Families, High Priesthoods ["The Law"]) have had at least 99.8% of the population of Europe, British Isles, Asia Minor and Africa UNDER THEIR STANDING, for Aeons.

Nothing has changed all this time bar the greedy and selfish expansion of "The Establishment Of Zion" to invade "Supposed" New Lands of The Americas, Canada, NZ & Australia etc. With their heavily armed and COORDINATED Judeo-Judaic ("The Establishment of Zion") Battle Ships, Zion's British, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Dutch Armadas waged war against all indigenous cultures who lived upon the lands that Zionists coveted.

Do you think these heavily armed war ships with rows and rows of powerful canons and a multitude of soldiers coated in steel, bearing guns, metal swords and knives, were travelling as loving peaceful beings across the oceans to make friends with the natives?

Yes, off course they did, our great and wonderful English History shows how our European ancestors were great loving people and that is why Europeans now happily and lovingly live upon the new lands, that were once under the guardianship of the indigenous people of Australia, NZ, Canada and the Americas. Today, Europeans & Asians who live upon these stolen lands, completely outnumber the indigenous populations by at least 10 to one or is it really something like 100 to 1, or even 500 to 1, considering how extensive and thorough "The Establishment's" genocidal campaign was.

Generally speaking, what we suspect really did happen (REAL-TRUE HISTORY) was this...

1. "The Establishment Of Zion" for years sent in their reconnaissance ships to assess their future indigenous victims strengths and weaknesses etc. Everything was done on FALSE Pretences even though most indigenous natives around the world would not have trusted these European visitors from the very beginning, because they would have picked up the VIBE of deceit & lies around the visitors, and knew they were in for war at some point in time.

2. They then sent in their war ships to terrorise the natives and cause genocide, until they had complete control. They murdered millions and millions of native men, women and children with their weapons of steel and intentionally introduced diseases as well. Science was already moving ahead in leaps and bounds since the 12th Century. We suspect that most, if not all black plagues and other European epidemics, since the 11th Century were generally man made and were being used to terrorise the serfs, no different to what they are still doing today. Secrecy and Lies is the way of Zion, has always been this way. Just look at 9/11 or Pearl Harbour or WW1 or WW2 etc etc. To the Zionist's, Divide and rule and the Hegelian Dialectic is a very old trusted, well worn hat.

3. They then instigated/manipulated bullshit nation Wars (Britain vs France, France vs Spain etc etc) so that the soldiers and sailors who were not in on what was really going on (those not Illumined or Initiated To Zion) would ALL die at sea or on strange lands. After murdering the natives and stopping the REAL-TRUE News of what they had been doing overseas from spreading back home, the uninitiated were killed one way or another. The Illumined Ones probably even murdered their own soldiers and deckhands, sunk some of their ships and told others back home they died at war or by a terrible sickness or are lost at sea after a storm. Genocide had to be kept a secret so the myth of Zion's Contrived English History can unfold down the line, exactly how they wanted it to unfold, to suit their long-term agenda. The Illumined ones were doing the same thing with 9/11.

4. They then sent in the colonists to establish bases/footholds etc and began the process of taking complete ownership of all land and steal all wealth, including natives.

5. Instead of continuing to send in and use hundreds of thousands or millions of convicts (most would have been innocent serfs), The Zionist's offered millions of Europeans the opportunity to relocate to these new lands as "Supposed" free men and women with the great opportunity to establish personal freedom and prosperity. This was a sucker punch!

6. "The Establishment of Zion" who were still the only ones who could read or write, conceived "The Constitutions" (Con-stitutions - con-stituents) of every new nation they founded on the lands they stole from the indigenous cultures. Again, through Codes ("The Word"), the deceived serfs were being Sucker Punched.

7. Zion conceived The New World Language For All To Speak (As A Continuation Of Their One World Order), now known as The English Language. Through the English language, Zion conceived "The Myth Of English History" (full of lies - fantasies), to decieve the serfs into believing a contrived history (Zion's version of reality) that establishes the platform that justifies the serfs place in the world, both in the old European, Asia Minor and African world and with the new found collonies, communities, villages and sea ports of the America's, Canada, NZ and Australia.

There was no accident or natural unfolding human evolution to all of this modern Western World civilisation. It was carefully planned and executed from the very beginning. The English language is full of codes (see the flier page in our website www.loveforlife.com.au/flier for further explanations on this), allowing the illumined psychopaths of Zion to talk to each other, without the serfs ever realising what was really going on.

In truth the European serfs continued having the rope of "The Establishment of Zion" bound around their necks all this time, without ever realising this. The promise of New Land Freedom & Prosperity gave the serfs the misguided impression the rope was being taken off (new-found freedom - prosperity - wealth - opportunities - adventures - excitement etc etc). But in truth, the rope was never taken off, it was just allowed to uncoil, providing the serfs with plenty of fantasy-freedom, compliments of Zion's lies and its deceptive double/triple meaning words of the English Language.

Then in very recent times, probably since 1900, "The Establishment of Zion" began to gradually pull the rope back in again, until there is no more freedom and prosperity. You can see the evidence of this by the absolute brutal arrogance of the judiciary, banksters, politicians and big business executives/directors working together in collusion.

The collusion between the judiciary, barristers, lawyers, attorneys, solicitors, prosecutors, banksters, politicians, media etc, is "The Establishment of Zion" at play, no different to what they have been doing for Aeons. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of families, are gradually being raped of all their new land wealth by "The Establishment of Zion" so the serfs can be put back in their rightful place (as deemed by Zion) as serfs (slaves in labour for Zion). The IRS, Banks, The Fed, Health Insurance Companies, Media Groups, Political Parties etc etc etc etc, are all Private Corporations, and these constructs are all owned and or controlled by "The Establishment of Zion".

"The Establishment of Zion" is a terrorist organisation, terrorising the people. Is this not what is still happening today, throughout The Western World Of Zion?

Throughout the ages, Zion conceived all religions, race and cultures.

Through the mind control of "The Word" of Zion, Zion injects their constructs into the minds of the serfs (as part of the ongoing terrorisation of the serfs) as opposing forces, at war against each other.

The War of Zion only goes on between the ears and those who believe in or have faith in or have opinions about "The Word"/Constructs of Zion, then externalise/project their beliefs, faiths and opinions upon the real world around them, as their life experience. Unfortunately for most its one of being a pre-programmed zombie slave.

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHhhhhhh.................A Vicious Circle................Isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zion created and controls all their constructs; of Education/Universities, Religion, English Language, Banking, Insurance, Government, Politics, Constitution, Democracy, Media, Private Corporation, Contracts, Fees, Fines, Tolls, interest, Tax etc etc etc etc.

Yes that's right, Zion built the serfs a sandpit and threw in plenty of plastic blocks/toys for the serfs to play in. This is how "The Word"/constructs of Zion enters between the eyes and ears of all serfs.

Every construct is organised so that it can ritualise/brainwash the serfs through Zion's organisational rules, regulations, rituals and procedures. Through a perpetual series of repetitions, flickering like the lens on a camera taking millions and millions of continuous shots, the serfs become familiarised and ingrained with Zion's "Word Story" Constructs.

Voila...... a Zombie is born, and yet another and another and look over there, here comes another bunch of zombies walking out past the entry gates of university...!!!!!!

Will the serfs ever manage to climb out of the sandpit, a sandpit they were tricked into playing in?

Yes, The New World Order Is Still The Old World Order. Nothing has changed until we change it, and to change this world we have to get rid of Zion, and to do this, we have to first learn how to climb out of Zion's sandpit. Until then, the serfs freedom movement is not a freedom movement at all, but a continuation of playing with the plastic toys provided by Zion, which keeps their zombie-children indulged with Zions mind-games.

While we are using Zions law, Zions government, Zions money, Zions media, Zions insurance, Zions education, Zions history etc etc, we are still bound/contracted to Zion's sand pit. Zion is the legal copyright owner of all the Western World Constructs that exist on earth today. The serfs did not conceive them! Zionist's did! Remember, the serfs who have always consisted of 99.8% or 99.9% of the population, generally could not read or write English, Latin or French untilaround 100 to 150 years ago.

Only through a love for all of life, a community of love (I am in duty to you and you are in duty to me) are we able to finally free ourselves from the psychological entrapment of Zions sandpit, which we call Fantasyland (Hell).

Arthur Cristian
act...@loveforlife.com.au

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M C (Mike) wrote:
Show what one does and you tell what they are. I gage by the act, not by affiliation. If Zionists seek a one world order and they have been around as long as you say... then they have to be the greatest failures, if not joke, of all time. Joining a group only makes it easier to spot them. It draws attention to them and their activities. There is a difference between committing a crime and merely having a belief. As with the Muslim, the Christian, the communist... radical elements will arise. It's a human weakness that sees itself as superior to others and seeks to dominate.
Mike

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S. Cheryl wrote

Hi. I'm on vacation and have a bit of time on my hands and so I actually read through your rant. I guess there are always some intersting points in posts like yours, but (excuse my about to be negative